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- From: cmh@lls.se (Magnus Holmgren)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
- Subject: Re: What the new Amiga-OS *must* have --> SAY *NO* TO FAT BINARIES!!!
- Date: 23 Mar 1996 18:53:42
- Organization: Visage development
- Message-ID: <4j1fds$iev@fizban.solace.mh.se>
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- X-FTN-To: Hans Guijt
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- In a message of 22 Mar 96, Hans wrote to :
-
- HG> No, the Amiga had them since time immemorial. *WE* are not stuck with
- HG> string gadgets that close your window when you press return (as happens
- HG> far too often in Windows applications).
-
- This is _quite_ annoying in requesters that have a multi-line entry field.
- In that program one must press ctrl-return to get a new line in that field.
- I quite often close it by mistake...
-
- HG> I generally find that C= had very sensible ideas about how things
- HG> should work. The Amiga is the *only* windowing system that I know
- HG> that has 'toback' gadgets on every window. I positively HATE Windows
- HG> for not having them:
-
- (Well, not _all_, but most do have them.)
-
- HG> And I despise that 'clicktofront' feature. I find myself continuously
- HG> resizing stuff so I can read in one window and work in another.
-
- Agreed. But I really like the clicktofront way of doubeclicking the window
- border, and it is moved to the front. There is one program for the Amiga
- that provides this. I think Motif have it as well.
-
- HG> What you say about BOOPSI is complete bullshit.
-
- Well, not completely, I'd say. It is a bit inefficient (especially if you
- subclass a couple of levels down), and it is a tad messy to code in -
- mainly due to the fact that it is in plain C/asm or whatever you prefer..
-
- As to bugs, well, it is much up to the class implementor. The system as
- such isn't buggy at least..
-
- HG> No, you'd rather have that great windows API (GetWindowLong (Window,
- HG> -16) anyone?)...
-
- And that means? (Haven't done any Windows programming...)
-
- HG> So you can change dialog boxes in Windows - big deal. Now try hacking
- HG> *real windows*. Oops - you can't.
-
- But the concept is quite nice. No need to recompile a program only because
- you want to change the layout a little. For a developer this could be very
- convenient.
-
- HG> The GUI's produced by MUI are among the most beautiful I have seen on
- HG> any platform (including Windows, Windows 95, OS/2, EASE, GEOS, Motif,
- HG> Solaris, and others). Even better, they don't need wide expanses of
- HG> screen just to show a simple 'yes-no' style window.
-
- But MUI has its own set of problems... And I'm not _that_ fond of the look
- (I have tried to make it better, but never really succeeded).
-
- HG> New ASL? What should it contain?
-
- Nothing much, I guess, but I don't really like parts of its behaviour...
-
- --
- Magnus Holmgren - Amiga programmer and enthusiast
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